The next part of my story is especially hard and perhaps the hardest thing to believe actually occurred. But if you'll indulge me, I'd like to digress for a moment.
I know it's incredibly hard to wrap ones head around the fact that it was this hard to leave. Those on the outside had a very hard time grasping how this could be. They would shake their head in wonder. I was eighteen and yet felt completely unable to just say, "Hey, mom.. dad.. I got accepted to a college in (enter any state in the country here)!! I can't wait to go." Or just simply say, "Hey mom! Guess what! I got a great price on an apartment here in town! I'll be moving out at the end of the month."
It just wasn't feasible nor comprehensible. It just simply could not happen that way. Their grip was so strong on us kids. The way of life is so incredibly one-way that you could not do something considered so inappropriate. A young girl lived in her parents house till she got married. There was no but or if or discussion on the matter.
I did struggle explaining this to those on the outside. And there are those within the Judaic community that are perhaps not as religious and also cannot comprehend the difficulty presented in deciding to leave home.
What I find interesting is if one were to mention that they had belonged to a cult and had a hard time leaving, people seem to understand and grasp the difficulty that it presents. Yet, when you tell them you're from an Orthodox Judaic culture, it somehow is harder to grasp its difficulties. No, I am not stating Judaism is a cult. I am just trying to convey that it is a hard concept to wrap ones head around when it comes to breaking free of such a religion, an indoctrination, a way of life.
What I find interesting is if one were to mention that they had belonged to a cult and had a hard time leaving, people seem to understand and grasp the difficulty that it presents. Yet, when you tell them you're from an Orthodox Judaic culture, it somehow is harder to grasp its difficulties. No, I am not stating Judaism is a cult. I am just trying to convey that it is a hard concept to wrap ones head around when it comes to breaking free of such a religion, an indoctrination, a way of life.
One other fact one must keep in mind when reading my story -this was back before there were blogs of people who felt the way I did. I did not know that there were others like me. As far as I knew, I was the only crazy one who dared go against the Orthodox way of life. This was when the internet was in its infancy, when dial-up took several tries to connect to the internet. Cell phones were just beginning to become a fad. A beeper was the 'in' thing. A lot has changed technologically and theologically.
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First time visiting? Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5
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What I am about to recount is from either reliable sources or what I had learned occurred years later.
To put it simply, all hell broke loose after I had successfully run away from home.
My mother kept trying to get a hold of me via the beeper, but very obviously I had not heard it.
She started to get very worried and contacted my father who in turn contacted the police.
They stated I may have been kidnapped by someone who went to the same college as I.
Because it had been less than 48 hours, the police could not yet do anything.
My father contacted the Shomrim.
I personally did not know much about these Shomrim back then. They rounded up my friends and interrogated them. They called old classmates of mine from High School that I had not kept in touch with. They essentially spread the word around the community about my disappearance in search of me.
I believe that it was this act -the Shomrim rounding up people I had known and spreading the word about my disappearance- that in the end made my family uncomfortable to show their face in the community and the why of my siblings having an incredibly hard time in yeshiva. I wish they had never involved the Shomrim... When word of my leaving out of my own volition spread, it made life very difficult for my family. My siblings were ostracized in school. And they have the Shomrim to thank for that. But then again, perhaps it is only I that sees it this way, when in reality, is it not all my fault? Had I not left, none of this would have happened to my family, right? Right.
My friends were taken in a van and driven around town by these Shomrim and were asked over and over again where I was. My friends stated they had no idea about my whereabouts, nor were they aware of my wanting to leave. They were questioned about this so called college guy I was seeing. They were kept in a van for hours. My best friend's mother was furious with my father and words were exchanged.
The police were finally brought in after 48 hours. My family swore I was a good girl who would never do such a thing and had never attempted to run away so this must be a kidnapping.
They got a hold of my phone bill and a list of phone numbers. The numbers were a Manhattan area code so they were convinced I was there. The Manhattan phone number was the calling card I had used. I disposed of every single one of the cards on campus so there was no trace or evidence of it and it took a while to figure out that it was not a person's phone number.
Before it was discovered that the number was a calling card, the Shomrim drove around Manhattan with my best friend in the van asking if anything looked familiar, asking her if she cared about me and if she did, she should tell them about this guy that stole me away.
The calling card switchboard did not have any records of the actual numbers I had dialed. I was safe. Finally the Shomrim gave up the search when it was discovered by the police that it was just a calling card and not, in fact, a person's phone number.
The police had brought K-9 dogs to the campus and they sniffed my PJ's and tried to see if they could obtain a lead to my whereabouts. My father stormed in on one of my classes and demanded of the students to let him know where I was.
The college refused to give any information on my records or anything. It was confidential. What a relief! So they never found out about the withdrawn classes or that I had spoken to a counselor.
This went on for some time. I felt absolutely horrible hearing from my best friend about how things were being handled. What a lie! I emailed my family and asked that they stop. I called once and to whomever answered I stated I was alright and to stop the hunt. I didn't want to stay on the phone long in case they were tracing calls.
Finally finally an NYPD detective did get a hold of me. My best friend gave him my number on the promise he wouldn't give my location to my family. He asked me questions to confirm my identity. He asked over and over if I was being held against my will and I stated that I was not. I explained the situation I was in and how I had attempted to talk to my parents to no avail. I explained that I had tried to leave once before and could not do so. I explained that there were letters about my leaving available. I told him the location of those letters in my parents home. We talked for some time on the phone. He felt assured I was safe and truly wholeheartedly wished me all the best. Being of legal age, he could not drag me back home and said as much to me. He told me I was not the first case he'd heard of this happening to within the Judaic community. I was surprised. He gave me his name, his number and my case number. He told me he was closing my case and assured me he would only tell my family I was safe and alright and I would contact them when I felt I could. He told me to call him if I had any questions.
Before we hung up, he asked that I do one thing for my safety. Because of what the Shomrim had done and were capable of, he asked that I go to the local police department where I was and explain my situation. Have it written down on paper that if I were to disappear without warning, that it was not of my own free will. He told me to give them his name and number and my case number with the NYPD. He explained that having all that on record would be best.
And so, the following day, Sam took me to the police department and I did just what the detective suggested I do. I felt weird doing this and the small town police department was quite stunned after I told them my story and why I was there. They did take down notes and I signed something and I actually did feel somewhat better having done that.
The guilt I carry around about what I brought upon my friends weighed heavy on me. I honestly hadn't considered they'd go through so much. I know my parents suffered a lot. I know my siblings are forever scarred by what I had done. And I carry around this guilt still -to a degree.
I didn't imagine this much occurring when I had left. I am still blown away at the intense reaction this brought about by the Shomrim and my family.
And how did I handle it all many miles and miles away? Not very well. Even though I was technically free, you can't expect to shed off layers and layers of a life one had lived literally overnight. It was a complete culture shock to me. Living in a new place, a place so vastly different than the one I had grown up in, a place more lax and accepting. I think I walked around dazed for weeks. I was staying in contact with my friends back in NY and from what I was hearing that was happening was not making it easier for me. There were times I felt on the verge of picking up the phone and asking to be brought back home. There were times I felt such an intense amount of guilt and grief that I didn't feel like I deserved to live.
How could I live freely and happily so when I have left everyone behind so incredibly saddened and heart stricken and in utter devastating condition? How could I deserve any happiness when they were far from it themselves?
There were days I stayed in bed and did nothing more. There were days I could not go out in fear there was someone who'd recognize me or perhaps the Shomrim were going to kidnap me while I slept!
My fears of being followed was not unfounded. Later I learned my father had hired a private detective who had indeed followed me for some time.
Sam's family had a dog and I kept that dog beside me when everyone was out at work or school. I locked all the doors even though the family never did. They weren't used to locking doors, but if that bothered them, they never said anything as I am sure they understood. I was still scared. I was depressed and I had a hard time looking beyond the here and now.
Sam would take me out for long rides to the middle of nowhere. Just beautiful countryside. We would talk. He would try to reason with me. He would try to get me to snap out of the mood I was in. I was grateful for his company and his friendship.
I emailed my family occasionally trying to reason with them, trying to get them to accept my choice. They in turn kept requesting I return and how they'd forgive me if I did. I decided to stop contacting them as it was not going anywhere. And, at the time, I thought it may never get better. I needed to distance myself from the emotional turmoil that this whole thing was causing me. It was time I started living. Wasn't this why I left? Time to stop sulking and grieving. It was time to start a new chapter in my life.
What a hell this must have been for you!!!
ReplyDeleteWow. This story just gets crazier and crazier. I can't imagine the hell this must have been for you.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me it isn't right for anyone to "feel upset" over a life decision that you are well within your rights to make.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious to hear more about the private detective incident. How did you find out about it and how did you get it to stop?
>> When word of my leaving out of my own volition spread, it made life very difficult for my family. My siblings were ostracized in school
Disgusting behavior on the part of the community penalizing your family for stuff they didn't do. Shunning you I can understand (while I disapprove of shunning) but if your family members still walk the line they make no reason to give a rough time.
>>I'm curious to hear more about the private detective incident. How did you find out about it and how did you get it to stop?
ReplyDeleteWhen my father and I met many years later (more on this in another part that I will write), I asked him for my savings account that he had possession over. It did have my name on it but also his. He admitted that he had used all of my money by hiring a private investigator to follow me and get photos and information on me and my life. I felt sick to my stomach and realized that those times I thought I was being followed, I may have actually been followed. Not a fun feeling, especially when you're already overly paranoid and anxiety-ridden.
Because my father had detailed information on some things that were not made available to him any other way, I had to believe that indeed he did hire a private investigator to follow me.
This was also later admitted to me by other family members, so I have no reason to disbelieve that my father hired one. And unfortunately, I did not know about it at the time so could not actually stop it.
I asked him what the point of it was and he said he needed to know I was alright. Didn't seem to matter to him that I had emailed them numerous times or had the NYPD detective I was in contact with tell him I was ok. He needed to be in control, I guess.
Hope that answered your question, SJ.
Imagine if your daughters ran away, would you just let them go or would you do whatever it took to find them.
ReplyDeleteI am sure your parents were going through hell worrying about you (forget about the shunning)
I realize you were 18, but to them you were still their child.
Yeah the private detective sounds creepy, But if they didnt look for you would you also have been creeped out thinking they didnt care
>> He admitted that he had used all of my money by hiring a private investigator to follow me and get photos and information on me and my life.
ReplyDeleteSounds bad. Did you work for that money at a job or was it allowance from parents?
Anyways, I'm happy for you that you found your freedom. Noone should be pushed into following a sect or religion they don't want to follow.
>>Imagine if your daughters ran away, would you just let them go or would you do whatever it took to find them.
ReplyDeleteI totally understand and agree. They were worried sick. I get that. But this whole thing could have been avoided if they'd just listen and eased up a bit.
I never once doubted that they cared or loved me. And I would like to think that I am building a good relationship with my daughters that if they needed to talk to me, they could. And I would never hold them back from following their dreams and pursuing their lives.
There is not a day that goes by that I don't wish things had turned out differently. I "what if" it to death. But where does that get me?
>>Sounds bad. Did you work for that money at a job or was it allowance from parents?
Yes, I worked at day camps. I also got a lot of money for my Bat Miztva. That money was set aside for when I would get married. But it was a shared account and I honestly didn't expect he'd give it to me. I asked for it because I thought what's the worst he could say? No? I was prepared for that. But I was not prepared to hear what he had done with it.
Could your parents have handled it differently. I am sure they could have.
ReplyDeleteBeing a parent of a teen is hard, religion or not.
>> Being a parent of a teen is hard
ReplyDeleteYes but in this case, the father's unfortunate lack of ability in this situation seems to be religiously induced, and I thought halacha was supposed to teach self control.
On top of that no reason to "borrow" and not give back dinero that FrumGirl worked for.
Oh shit one point I missed anonymous just now, you tryin to sneak in a fast one by the time FrumGirl left she was already a legal adult if I understand the story correctly.
ReplyDelete>>by the time FrumGirl left she was already a legal adult
ReplyDeleteYep. That is correct. I was 18 when I left. Even the NYPD detective I spoke to said he could not drag me home because of my age.
I know she was 18. I feel she could have just come home one day and said
ReplyDeleteMommy Daddy, I am 18 and a legal adult, I have a job and a new apartment. I am moving out.
I know someone NOT jewish who basically divorced her family over a GUY. The family did not like the guy (They felt he was socially below them).
This kind of thing happens with young people all the time. Religion, Homosexuality, Mates, Jobs , (I know someone who divorced their family because he picked the "wrong career).
Most of the time these people did not run away. It is not good to glamourize running away.
While it seems in this case it worked out. Go to the Port Authority Bus terminal in NYC and see all the teenage runaways who are in very bad shape. Most of the time it does not work out well running away
BTW you might want to look into the Story of Pop Singer Katy Perry.
ReplyDeleteKaty's parents are fundamentalist Christians (Not much different than fundamentalist jews) . Fire and Brimstone. NO TV, No Music (Except for Church Music) Speaking in Toungues the whole 9 yards.
Katy did not like this lifestyle and wanted to be a pop singer (She sung in Church and even released a gospel album under her real name Katie Hudson).
Now she is a Famous Pop Singer with a rep as a sex kitten , dresses very provacativly sings about Bi-curious etc.
Her parents while they admire her success, arent exactly thrilled with her lifestyle and still have trouble dealing with it.
Disturbed Singer Dave Draiman is a yeshiva boy, but he went to Modern Orthodox Yeshivas and frankly I am not sure of his relationship with his family
I understand your father's concern. However, his name was on your account because you were a minor, not because it was his money.
ReplyDeleteNot sure why he felt it was okay to steal the money.
Then again, my parents taught me not to steal. I hope that the money set aside from birthday gifts in my children's accounts is used for higher education and/or starting their life. However, it's not my money to take just because I have custodial rights to it.
Your father had the legal ability to do so. But he stole from you, which is unacceptable.
Sadly, your father was not able to internalize the religion he wears the garb of and felt the right to steal something because he had the legal right to do so, very sad.
My post "Explosion" is dedicated in part to you. Your story reminds me of novels about prison escapees or hostage situations.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Tova.
ReplyDeleteBy forcing you to live a way of life, your parents have absolved you of any guilt - they will blame you, but the fault lies in the mirror and the community around them - that is their choice, not yours.
ReplyDeleteBy not having the personal identity and courage to accept that people are different, your siblings have absolved you of any guilt, again they will blame you, but the fault is in their mirror.
You must move beyond the guilt - that is their final weapon.
Best of luck, chin up, be proud of yourself. You have strength.
You're a very brave woman. It takes a lot of fortitude and determination to go off on your own, even in the best of circumstances.
ReplyDeleteDear Frum Girl Gone South,
ReplyDeleteI'm going to promise you a couple of things.
I promise you that some day, and likely some day soon, you will no longer engage in "what if" thinking.
As you get older you realize that people make decisions based on whatever information they have at the time.
Life is infinitely contingent. We can't possibly anticipate all the possible consequences of our actions. We can't see into the future. We can't travel back into the past. We can't learn from experiences that we haven't yet had.
We can only go on what we have.
"What if" thinking is useless because it's a way of pretending to know things that we can't possibly know.
"What if" thinking is useless because it's a way of pretending that we can somehow magically travel back into the past and change things or alter their course.
When I was 15-years old, I left a home and family very similar to yours. Although this was many, many years ago, I can still clearly remember the morning I left. I can still remember hugging and kissing my father, may his memory be always for blessing, and thinking, "It'll be a long time before I ever see him again." And I can still remember my mother crying as if her heart were breaking.
And a few years later, I left frumkeit altogether.
Do I regret these decisions? Yes. Sometimes. And sometimes not.
But I've made so many important decisions since then, that the decision to leave home at 15, and the decision to leave frumkeit, have assumed their rightful proportion among all the other important decisions, good and bad, that I've made.
I promise you that when you get older you will know peace, or at least the kind of peace we mean when we use the term "self-acceptance."
It's perfectly OK to be uncertain or ambivalent or to engage, from time to time, in regret. Those things are normal.
But what's most important, what counts more than self-doubt or self-pity or all the other distractions on which we waste time, is that we know that we have tried very, very hard to love other people as best as we possibly could.
Our time on this earth is brief.
Chazal said that just one moment in this world is far sweeter than an eternity in the World to Come.
I wish you the very best of luck.
Sincerely,
HDT
"To thine own self be true." wrote Shakespeare in Hamlet. This advice is, as you already know, timeless. Unfortunately it is wisdom harder learned truth when born of self discovery. I am only sorry you had to live through "hell" along the way. Your story is such a poignant one.
ReplyDeleteYou are so strong, your words reveal that because you are able to write this.
I admire your struggle and hope life has a smoother, calmer, happier path for you now.
Thank you all for your kind words of support. It means a lot.
ReplyDeleteFrum Girl-
ReplyDeleteWow! What a story! I have so much respect for what you did. You mention you have a somewhat ok relationship with your family now.
I imagine that took a long time.
The Anonymous commenter who compares what you had to do with people who have a falling out with their families over a job choice or mate in life is totally clueless.
Anyone who know what this is like knows you cannot just come home and announce that now that you are 18, you will be leaving to live your own life.
I had to make similar decisions to you, although my family is not an intense. I do live life on my own terms for the most part and live on my own.
But I am 40 years old, and I still pretend that I believe in God. In my mind, they can handle the lifestyle I live, but knowing I am agnostic on my very best days, and atheist if I am totally honest with myself...well, it's a boat I am not willing to rock. I am so far not brave enough.
The thing that is strangest is that I am afraid God will be angry and punish me (or them) for not believing in him! That's right, the God I don't believe in.
The fear we are raised with is so hard to shake.
Anyway, sorry for the megillah. Good for you and best of luck!!
>> You mention you have a somewhat ok relationship with your family now. I imagine that took a long time.
ReplyDeleteYes, that took a very very long time. Years in fact. I'll be writing about that eventually.
>>The thing that is strangest is that I am afraid God will be angry and punish me (or them) for not believing in him! That's right, the God I don't believe in.
I struggled with this for a long time. The god I didn't believe in I still somewhat feared. I am an athiest now. It took many years to get to where I am today and to be honest with myself about what I believed, so I do understand where you are coming from.
Years and years of indoctrination is not so easily shed, that's for sure!!
Thank you, Paradox, for your comment!